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#209484 - 08/04/12 04:19 AM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: Shaggydog]
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#209487 - 08/04/12 04:26 AM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: bigredkop]
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Same here! Well put

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#209518 - 08/04/12 06:49 AM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: bigredkop]
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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: Shaggydog
[b][/b]So give the new guy a full season but dont give the current manager a full season.

You dont see anything wrong in adopting that policy?

If this new guy wins a trophy but struggles in the league during his first full season will you want him sacked too.




Course they will. We live in an attention span challenged video game era now Mate. Knee jerkers have taken over the game.


I think that's unfair. It isn't just knee jerk to think Kenny isn't the right man for the job. He has dropped some massive clangers all over the shop on and off the pitch, in and out of the transfer window. We give time to those who we think can turn it around. Waiting too long can be as harmful as being too quick.

I have no problem with people who think Kenny is the right man, they clearly have seen enough to think this is a man who can turn this around. I just haven't seen anywhere near enough for me to think that, and I think a new manager will help in terms of giving us a bit of direction, momentum, impetus, and draw a line under what has been a real struggle.

I'd probably wait till the end of the season as I don't see a massive benefit in acting before that, and in that time maybe he can show something to make me think he has it in him to stem the tide. He is in the unfortunate position of Liverpool needing to turn things around very swiftly indeed. With FFP rules, the next generation of sponsorship deals being negotiated, a new stadium needing planning and direction, the longer Liverpool are seen as not a top club, the harder it will be to get back to where we were. I think it will take Kenny too long to get a team together, he's not learning lessons fast enough, his signings lack a focus and direction, he doesn't seem to know where he wants to take the team in terms of strategy. I believe given time he could get a team together and could do more than this, he would be hard pressed to do any worse with this squad. But I don't think he can build a team that can cement itself as a top 4, and I think it will take too much time and too much money compared to what a younger manager with a clear direction might be able to achieve.


Well I don't consider that knee-jerk at all. There's a difference between measured, thoughtful, constructive and respectful criticism and the vitriol spewed by some people on this board. I think you may well get your way at the end of the season IF we fail to win the FA cup - but don't be surprised of FSG see a second trophy as success to build on. Kenny has made lots of mistakes - so has Comolli. I wasn't too happy about him bringing Carroll on then taking off our main source of crosses today - I think that was a bad decision - but I'm not going to demean Kenny or call him insulting names like many did on here. I also am not fond of his interviews - and agree that he seems genuinely perplexed about what to do - but there is a way to register those feelings without crapping on the club and one of its favourite sons.

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#209573 - 08/04/12 03:51 PM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: TheKopProphet]
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agreed kp.
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#209589 - 08/04/12 04:27 PM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: flames]
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Very well put KP

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#209591 - 08/04/12 04:43 PM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: BeLl3r5]
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kenny is hurting, he has never been good with the media so it shouldn't come as a shock. can't believe the amount of knee jerkers supporting lfc these days.

sacking kenny would be a total disaster for the club.
he is trying to get rid of carroll(very hard), so he is recognizing a mistake,guardlola paid 80m and eto'o for his bump lump -they didn't sack him.
the squad are behind kenny and clark,u can't sack him, we play good footy,we need huuntelaar and winger or two ,beat everton next week and on the up.

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#209599 - 08/04/12 05:03 PM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: EMP]
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Who's AVAILABLE that WANTS the Liverpool job ?

I keep asking myself this question...of course there's Rafa n AVB but Rafa's been there n done that n I think AVB can attract a bigger club sadly, Steve Bruce , Mick McArthy.....

Therefore I'd give KD another season n sack Andy Carroll , Jordan Henderson n Downing fer breach of contract i.e. impersonating professional footballers.

Or it could be that Guardiola'll quit one of the best teams in history n join us in the summer coz he fancies a challenege , until that happens get behind the redmen or shut up or ship out.

Support n Believe as much as it hurts at the moment.

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#209601 - 08/04/12 05:18 PM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: Andred]
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Originally Posted By: Andred
Who's AVAILABLE that WANTS the Liverpool job ?

I keep asking myself this question...of course there's Rafa n AVB but Rafa's been there n done that n I think AVB can attract a bigger club sadly, Steve Bruce , Mick McArthy.....

Therefore I'd give KD another season n sack Andy Carroll , Jordan Henderson n Downing fer breach of contract i.e. impersonating professional footballers.

Or it could be that Guardiola'll quit one of the best teams in history n join us in the summer coz he fancies a challenege , until that happens get behind the redmen or shut up or ship out.

Support n Believe as much as it hurts at the moment.


What a meaningless phrase what does it mean? just parroting king king YNWA like some automoton king kenny king kenny we will win the league next year with the king carroll will be a 60 goal a season man. Or you can use your intelegence and say what you think. For me to believe I have to have evidence and a rational way forward.
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#209603 - 08/04/12 05:19 PM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: EMP]
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Originally Posted By: kennymuststay
kenny is hurting, he has never been good with the media so it shouldn't come as a shock. can't believe the amount of knee jerkers supporting lfc these days.

sacking kenny would be a total disaster for the club.
he is trying to get rid of carroll(very hard), so he is recognizing a mistake,guardlola paid 80m and eto'o for his bump lump -they didn't sack him.
the squad are behind kenny and clark,u can't sack him, we play good footy,we need huuntelaar and winger or two ,beat everton next week and on the up.


Thats a key part of the job. What part is he good at incidently?
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#209605 - 08/04/12 05:32 PM Re: Enough is enough... Kenny should be sacked [Re: Stanley Park]
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wouldn't say its key myself, key is playing.
and he is good at playing pass and move footy,man management.
just need to get the transfer part right this summer and we will have no more knee jerk calls for him to go.we play ball,anyone can see that its just carroll signing,and a few others, that really killed us,deserves another go.bill shanks didn't get promoted until his third season..feeling u would have been wanting him out after 6 months.

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