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#209977 - 09/04/12 05:23 PM king kenny
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#209980 - 09/04/12 05:25 PM Re: king kenny [Re: mike1892]
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should have sacked him then..thats the proper knee jerk reaction

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#209981 - 09/04/12 05:26 PM Re: king kenny [Re: mike1892]
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and this relevant because (simon garner says so)

more of the old friends brigade spouting crap while ignoring the league table and money spent.
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#209985 - 09/04/12 05:37 PM Re: king kenny [Re: heggypompom]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
and this relevant because (simon garner says so)

more of the old friends brigade spouting crap while ignoring the league table and money spent.


the irony

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#210004 - 09/04/12 05:57 PM Re: king kenny [Re: plums]
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another juicy comment from the plum


Edited by heggypompom (09/04/12 05:57 PM)
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#210020 - 09/04/12 08:20 PM Re: king kenny [Re: heggypompom]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
another juicy comment from the plum


haha :P

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#210027 - 09/04/12 08:41 PM Re: king kenny [Re: plums]
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Very funny plum

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#210154 - 09/04/12 10:34 PM Re: king kenny [Re: heggypompom]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
and this relevant because (simon garner says so)

more of the old friends brigade spouting crap while ignoring the league table and money spent.


erm... no... it's relevant because Blackburn won the premiership three years after Kenny went through such a losing streak, meaning that it is not always the best decision to just sack the manager in times of hardship.

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#210156 - 09/04/12 10:37 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: heggypompom
and this relevant because (simon garner says so)

more of the old friends brigade spouting crap while ignoring the league table and money spent.


erm... no... it's relevant because Blackburn won the premiership three years after Kenny went through such a losing streak, meaning that it is not always the best decision to just sack the manager in times of hardship.


Although I am fully with you on the 'Sack Kenny' nonsense, you can't really use the Blackburn thing, I mean come on there is easily a counter argument.

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#210157 - 09/04/12 10:38 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Kenny is trying every trick in the media book to shore up his position. Pity he did not put that effort into the job itself.
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#210163 - 09/04/12 10:42 PM Re: king kenny [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
and this relevant because (simon garner says so)

more of the old friends brigade spouting crap while ignoring the league table and money spent.


erm... no... it's relevant because Blackburn won the premiership three years after Kenny went through such a losing streak, meaning that it is not always the best decision to just sack the manager in times of hardship.


Although I am fully with you on the 'Sack Kenny' nonsense, you can't really use the Blackburn thing, I mean come on there is easily a counter argument.


Doesn't matter. The possibility is there - there is a precedent not only for it to happen but to happen with this manager. The probability is that it won't happen but the doom-gloomers can't have the rhetoric all their way. Just because we had a poor season and our new transfers were all disappointing... doesn't mean that exactly the same thing will happen next season. In fact, identical seasons don't normally come back to back. Everything depends on the players we supplement our team with this summer... many of our disappointing new arrivals could still make it with the right additions whether it comes from Kenny or someone else.

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#210165 - 09/04/12 10:47 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Originally Posted By: aldo
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: heggypompom
and this relevant because (simon garner says so)

more of the old friends brigade spouting crap while ignoring the league table and money spent.


erm... no... it's relevant because Blackburn won the premiership three years after Kenny went through such a losing streak, meaning that it is not always the best decision to just sack the manager in times of hardship.


Basically what we have here is a Schrodinger's cat situtaion

Although I am fully with you on the 'Sack Kenny' nonsense, you can't really use the Blackburn thing, I mean come on there is easily a counter argument.


Doesn't matter. The possibility is there - there is a precedent not only for it to happen but to happen with this manager. The probability is that it won't happen but the doom-gloomers can't have the rhetoric all their way. Just because we had a poor season and our new transfers were all disappointing... doesn't mean that exactly the same thing will happen next season. In fact, identical seasons don't normally come back to back. Everything depends on the players we supplement our team with this summer... many of our disappointing new arrivals could still make it with the right additions whether it comes from Kenny or someone else.


So basically your saying what we have here is a Schrodinger's cat situation


Edited by aldo (09/04/12 10:48 PM)

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#210174 - 09/04/12 10:56 PM Re: king kenny [Re: ]
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It's getting very old hearing all the tripe about sacking and clearing out the entire coaching and playing staff and starting again. Still haven't heard any real good recommendations of where we go if Kenny leaves. People throw out a name here of there but with no real insight into what it takes or absolute no experience in how to WIN in football. Winning is difficult. Last season people touted AVB and redknapp; would you take them now? Fact is nobody knows what is going on behind the scenes and nobody here has ever won anything at the level we are talking about. There's no defending the results of late but I'd like to believe we'll be better for what we're going through now.

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#210178 - 09/04/12 11:03 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Lucas21]
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It's getting very old hearing all the tripe about sacking and clearing out the entire coaching and playing staff and starting again. Still haven't heard any real good recommendations of where we go if Kenny leaves. People throw out a name here of there but with no real insight into what it takes or absolute no experience in how to WIN in football. Winning is difficult. Last season people touted AVB and redknapp; would you take them now? Fact is nobody knows what is going on behind the scenes and nobody here has ever won anything at the level we are talking about. There's no defending the results of late but I'd like to believe we'll be better for what we're going through now.


Patience, loyalty, reason, the never-say-die spirit... all dead in the new generation of fans. Thanks to Xbox and Playstation and football manager kids just wilt when the going gets tough, or switch allegiances. Shankley is turning in his grave with the hypocrites that sing YNWA one day and turn on their club the next!

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#210184 - 09/04/12 11:10 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Rubbish what do you know about Shankly ? he would not have stood for this nor would he have paid 35m for a pony tailed championship player. ok he did sign Alun Evans but we will ignore that. Shankly progressed the club more or less from day one he had small setbacks but overall the club went forward and fast. He was good with the media too unlike Kenny who is pityfull.
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#210185 - 09/04/12 11:11 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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And Kop Prophet it helps if you spell his name right too when you mention the great man. If you don't mind?
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#210186 - 09/04/12 11:12 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: Lucas21
It's getting very old hearing all the tripe about sacking and clearing out the entire coaching and playing staff and starting again. Still haven't heard any real good recommendations of where we go if Kenny leaves. People throw out a name here of there but with no real insight into what it takes or absolute no experience in how to WIN in football. Winning is difficult. Last season people touted AVB and redknapp; would you take them now? Fact is nobody knows what is going on behind the scenes and nobody here has ever won anything at the level we are talking about. There's no defending the results of late but I'd like to believe we'll be better for what we're going through now.


Patience, loyalty, reason, the never-say-die spirit... all dead in the new generation of fans. Thanks to Xbox and Playstation and football manager kids just wilt when the going gets tough, or switch allegiances. Shankley is turning in his grave with the hypocrites that sing YNWA one day and turn on their club the next!
shankley i dont believe you cant even spell the great mans name !!!!


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#210187 - 09/04/12 11:12 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Stan, Shankly's first major signing never played a 1st team game.

He wasn't infallible either

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#210191 - 09/04/12 11:15 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Shaggydog]
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Stan, Shankly's first major signing never played a 1st team game.

He wasn't infallible either


That was what I said but overall the direction was fast progress.
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#210196 - 09/04/12 11:20 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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That's a detention for you Kop.

Not spelling the great mans name properly.

The shame.

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#210204 - 09/04/12 11:27 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Stan, Shankly's first major signing never played a 1st team game.

He wasn't infallible either


That was what I said but overall the direction was fast progress.


promoted after 3 seasons...kenny wins silverware in first ,maybe both domestic cups.

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#210207 - 09/04/12 11:31 PM Re: king kenny [Re: EMP]
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The direction kenny must stay (stay where on the golf course?) the direction matey was progress not freefall not wasting 100m plus most of Shankly's signings were successful. What are we saying here the hapless Dalglish is the new shankly ?


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#210220 - 09/04/12 11:41 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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well he did create probably the best attacking team we ever had. yep money was wasted, not the first top manager to waste money. a bump in the road, lets not scrap him .due to previous success and his experience i back him to turn it around. two cups in first season would be better than most other managers in league.

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#210223 - 09/04/12 11:44 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Well there will only ever be one Shankly Stan.

But dont forget Dalglish did give us 3 League Titles and our first Double.

He deserves respect for what he achieved the first time Stan whether you rate him or not.



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#210224 - 09/04/12 11:46 PM Re: king kenny [Re: EMP]
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well he did create probably the best attacking team we ever had. yep money was wasted, not the first top manager to waste money. a bump in the road, lets not scrap him .due to previous success and his experience i back him to turn it around. two cups in first season would be better than most other managers in league.


Yes managers make bad signings even Ferguson but I have never known such as wholsale failure on such a scale as Dalglish in 2011. That alone should cost him his job.
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#210226 - 09/04/12 11:47 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Shaggydog]
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Well there will only ever be one Shankly Stan.

But dont forget Dalglish did give us 3 League Titles and our first Double.

He deserves respect for what he achieved the first time Stan whether you rate him or not.

Souness does'nt get respect for what he did for the Club by alot of Liverpool fans so why should Dalglish be spared the same treatment

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#210231 - 09/04/12 11:51 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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i disagree. got to let him go again..commolli is the one signing the cheques. when torres left suddennly , we panicked and spent 35m on a drunk. i bet whoever was manager at the time that deal was getting done. carroll had had a decent 5 months and commolli was getting him no matter what.

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#210232 - 09/04/12 11:55 PM Re: king kenny [Re: EMP]
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i disagree. got to let him go again..commolli is the one signing the cheques. when torres left suddennly , we panicked and spent 35m on a drunk. i bet whoever was manager at the time that deal was getting done. carroll had had a decent 5 months and commolli was getting him no matter what.


So Kenny has nothing to do with these signings?
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#210233 - 09/04/12 11:58 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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he does of course. he is the manager, but like i said imo carroll was being bought no matter what. hendo to i feel was commolli's pet stats signing. straight in for him in the summer, whilst kenny's signings downing,adam dragged out a bit. maybe i am wrong but thats how i see it. carroll is a mare that needs to be forgotten about but i would be much happier if commolli left rather than kenny


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#210236 - 10/04/12 12:04 AM Re: king kenny [Re: EMP]
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he does of course. he is the manager, but like i said imo carroll was being bought no matter what. hendo to i feel was commolli's pet stats signing. straight in for him in the summer, whilst kenny's signings downing,adam dragged out a bit. maybe i am wrong but thats how i see it. carroll is a mare that needs to be forgotten about but i would be much happier if commolli left rather than kenny


Going to be interesting to see what FSG do.
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#210240 - 10/04/12 12:07 AM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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i don't think they will do anything myself..seem to be a bit wait and see , less active and hands on than i thought they'd be..stadium issue seems to be on the long finger..i'd say they will continue as before, we will sign maybe 2 quick players and a replacement striker for the dud and that will be it

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#210296 - 10/04/12 01:15 AM Re: king kenny [Re: EMP]
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he does of course. he is the manager, but like i said imo carroll was being bought no matter what. hendo to i feel was commolli's pet stats signing. straight in for him in the summer, whilst kenny's signings downing,adam dragged out a bit. maybe i am wrong but thats how i see it. carroll is a mare that needs to be forgotten about but i would be much happier if commolli left rather than kenny


I personally see Carroll as a total kenny signing. Think Kenny saw him to make a big man little man link up, young and english, think he was Kennys number one signing.

Henderson I could see being suggested to him though due to his incredible stats at the end of last season.

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#210300 - 10/04/12 01:18 AM Re: king kenny [Re: bigredkop]
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hendo will come good

carroll is a dalglish signing as kenny is still living in the 80's with his football concepts

big man small man combo

how old is this thinking in football terms?
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#210321 - 10/04/12 01:36 AM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Rubbish what do you know about Shankly ? he would not have stood for this nor would he have paid 35m for a pony tailed championship player. ok he did sign Alun Evans but we will ignore that. Shankly progressed the club more or less from day one he had small setbacks but overall the club went forward and fast. He was good with the media too unlike Kenny who is pityfull.

Game has changed stan. If we're going to give someone credit for signings under Shanks then i think Mr. Twentyman needs a mention (Keegan, King Kenny, Hansen, Rush etc all discovered by him). Commolli signing and spending the money. It's one thing Kenny saying he likes someone but it's up to Commolli to put it all together.

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#210325 - 10/04/12 01:40 AM Re: king kenny [Re: Lucas21]
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Lucas its always been like that in Dalglish first time at the club as manager he had Tom Saunders, Ron Yeats, Roy Evans, Ronnie Moran and upstairs Bob Paisley. Not a bad backroom I think you will agree.
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#210330 - 10/04/12 01:43 AM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Dalglish and the gang must all go but we support until they leave at the end of the season.

but they must go no questions asked
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#210338 - 10/04/12 01:47 AM Re: king kenny [Re: heggypompom]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
hendo will come good

carroll is a dalglish signing as kenny is still living in the 80's with his football concepts

big man small man combo

how old is this thinking in football terms?


About 12-13 years.

It did "exist" back when we was successful, with the likes of Toshack and Keegan, but nobody pointed out the "big man, little man stereotype" it was just simply, one good player, playing of, of another.

Only relatively recently have we come into a culture of the "big man, little man" A philosophy much used by a Harry Redknapp at West Ham, Portsmouth and early on at Spurs, although not so much now.

Carroll was bought to create options and space for players around him, bring them into play, assist goals and score them, whether or not the players around him are all 6'4 or all 5'5.

Kenny had two "big men" up front at Blackburn, with Shearer and Sutton. They were successful, did anyone complain about the "big man, big man" combination?

Your big man, little man, Kenny "80's football concept" falls on its ars*!

1. Kenny hasn't deployed Carroll and Suarez every single game.

and

2. When he has, it's not with the one dimensional conventional "big man, little man" philosophy either.




Finally, what makes you believe Hendo "will" come good, but Carroll won't?

Carroll hasn't exactly fired on all cylinders either, but there is a valid argument to make, that he has done more than Henderson AND offered a better option. Also, take into account, less trust, faith and persistence with Carroll.

Neither player has played to their maximum at all and neither justify the money spent on them.

But this Hendo "will" come good consensus I hear, is baseless. I for one really hope so, but I feel people are looking at Lucas as some sort of comparison and justification as to why Hendo "will" come good.

The fact is, Henderson isn't being converted to another position, like Lucas was. Henderson is playing in positions, attacking positions, familiar to him as a player. Positions he has played in before, and can admittedly play.

The fact that his output, is virtually nil, (even when played in his preferred position) worries me. I doubt whether Henderson will come good at all, I just haven't seen the small signs (like Lucas showed for instance) and especially when he didn't really set the world a light at Sunderland either.

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#210352 - 10/04/12 01:57 AM Re: king kenny [Re: ]
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do you want some lynx for all that sweat?
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#210376 - 10/04/12 02:18 AM Re: king kenny [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
hendo will come good

carroll is a dalglish signing as kenny is still living in the 80's with his football concepts

big man small man combo

how old is this thinking in football terms?


About 12-13 years.

It did "exist" back when we was successful, with the likes of Toshack and Keegan, but nobody pointed out the "big man, little man stereotype" it was just simply, one good player, playing of, of another.

Only relatively recently have we come into a culture of the "big man, little man" A philosophy much used by a Harry Redknapp at West Ham, Portsmouth and early on at Spurs, although not so much now.

Carroll was bought to create options and space for players around him, bring them into play, assist goals and score them, whether or not the players around him are all 6'4 or all 5'5.

Kenny had two "big men" up front at Blackburn, with Shearer and Sutton. They were successful, did anyone complain about the "big man, big man" combination?

Your big man, little man, Kenny "80's football concept" falls on its ars*!

1. Kenny hasn't deployed Carroll and Suarez every single game.

and

2. When he has, it's not with the one dimensional conventional "big man, little man" philosophy either.




Finally, what makes you believe Hendo "will" come good, but Carroll won't?

Carroll hasn't exactly fired on all cylinders either, but there is a valid argument to make, that he has done more than Henderson AND offered a better option. Also, take into account, less trust, faith and persistence with Carroll.

Neither player has played to their maximum at all and neither justify the money spent on them.

But this Hendo "will" come good consensus I hear, is baseless. I for one really hope so, but I feel people are looking at Lucas as some sort of comparison and justification as to why Hendo "will" come good.

The fact is, Henderson isn't being converted to another position, like Lucas was. Henderson is playing in positions, attacking positions, familiar to him as a player. Positions he has played in before, and can admittedly play.

The fact that his output, is virtually nil, (even when played in his preferred position) worries me. I doubt whether Henderson will come good at all, I just haven't seen the small signs (like Lucas showed for instance) and especially when he didn't really set the world a light at Sunderland either.


Craney a good sensible post and one without comeback as we just don't know. Henderson is a classic moneyball type signing, he is athletic, technically very good, no1 assists at Sunderland, quite strong and has a good injury free record. Against his peers he stands out as having it all BUT doesn't really possess anything magical, something to change game or have burning desire to attack in a certain way. This is why he neither offends nor pleases, he rarely gives the ball away and positionally is good. He also has an eye for a good pass, several assists this season. Do we notice he is there though? probably not, he will as it stands not change a game for you.

Carroll from his highlights at Newcastle is the opposite, he doesn't have great Technical skills, is not athletic or a great footballer or thinker- he is however known to be unplayable even devastating when in the mood, this has not been evident so far in a red shirt. His all round game has improved since he joined us but the bit he was good at has gone and doesn't look like coming back soon. He has to find that spark, maybe the humiliation at Newcastle was it, maybe not shouting at the ref for fouls might help.

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#210513 - 10/04/12 11:15 AM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Rubbish what do you know about Shankly ? he would not have stood for this nor would he have paid 35m for a pony tailed championship player. ok he did sign Alun Evans but we will ignore that. Shankly progressed the club more or less from day one he had small setbacks but overall the club went forward and fast. He was good with the media too unlike Kenny who is pityfull.


Regarding Shankly: Yes, well done for seizing on one of my rare typos! I also forgot that you alone are the only one qualified to comment on our pre-Rafa history on this site. As has been pointed out - you are trying to compare two completely different eras. And for someone that criticises others for lapsing into nostalgia you show you are more than capable of it when it suits you. I don't think you can say who Shankly would have signed with today's money... but I can tell you he wouldn't kick the club in the teeth when their down... like you do every day!

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#210525 - 10/04/12 01:31 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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he cares about the club can you say all these blind dalglish faithers do?
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#210602 - 10/04/12 05:09 PM Re: king kenny [Re: heggypompom]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
he cares about the club can you say all these blind dalglish faithers do?


Oh, I get it - supporting the manager means not caring about the club.

I think some people need to step away from the keyboard before they make right fools of themselves.

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#210630 - 10/04/12 05:50 PM Re: king kenny [Re: ]
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To be fair Thundyr, the brainwashed followers seem to think that not being a kenny fan means you don't support 'the club' so why can't it be flipped around? Fair's fair.
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#210636 - 10/04/12 05:55 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Rubbish what do you know about Shankly ? he would not have stood for this nor would he have paid 35m for a pony tailed championship player. ok he did sign Alun Evans but we will ignore that. Shankly progressed the club more or less from day one he had small setbacks but overall the club went forward and fast. He was good with the media too unlike Kenny who is pityfull.


Regarding Shankly: Yes, well done for seizing on one of my rare typos! I also forgot that you alone are the only one qualified to comment on our pre-Rafa history on this site. As has been pointed out - you are trying to compare two completely different eras. And for someone that criticises others for lapsing into nostalgia you show you are more than capable of it when it suits you. I don't think you can say who Shankly would have signed with today's money... but I can tell you he wouldn't kick the club in the teeth when their down... like you do every day!


So what would he do then just carry on mid table in perpetuity. From what I remember of Shankly he would have hated the game today pricing out loyal fans the billionaires etc. He was a simple man and a socialist from a mining village in scotland long way from the game today. As for kicking the club in the teeth I at least pay 1000 plus every year to them so if thats a kick in the teeth anyone can kick me anytime they like. Club is a global brand and we have the right to complain if things are not going to plan its fine for you to say give it x years be patient you only have to worry about your keyboard wearing out. Next season if I am to pay I WANT hope and something to look forward to.
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#210697 - 10/04/12 08:10 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Have to agree with what you said Stan.The club is a multi-national company and we as fans are the shareholders due to the large sums of cash we inject annually.In a large company there is a shareholders meeting
[end of season for us] and things have to be changed for the next financial year[next season].We as fans are not wrong to demand that changes be made to improve the situation.Now it's up toFSG to listen and make the changes or at least tell us the plan an dshow us how we are progressing.

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#210731 - 10/04/12 09:33 PM Re: king kenny [Re: jboy]
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Have to agree with what you said Stan.The club is a multi-national company and we as fans are the shareholders due to the large sums of cash we inject annually.In a large company there is a shareholders meeting
[end of season for us] and things have to be changed for the next financial year[next season].We as fans are not wrong to demand that changes be made to improve the situation.Now it's up toFSG to listen and make the changes or at least tell us the plan an dshow us how we are progressing.


The analogy could work, but you've somewhat incorrectly applied it in my opinion.

Yes Liverpool is a multi national company. But the fans are not share holders. Football is an entertainments bussiness. The fans are punters/customers. The only way fans have a say is like customers, they affect things by not purchasing or purchasing more. The share holders are the share holders. It doesn't really need the analogy. It is in fact exactly the same.

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#210735 - 10/04/12 09:36 PM Re: king kenny [Re: bigredkop]
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Actually a lot of fans are shareholders as well
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#210747 - 10/04/12 09:52 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Actually a lot of fans are shareholders as well


Stanley! shocked You have an avatar!! shocked
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#210748 - 10/04/12 09:53 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Bar]
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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Actually a lot of fans are shareholders as well


Stanley! shocked You have an avatar!! shocked


I tried to put my own up but lifes too short.
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#210774 - 10/04/12 10:08 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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The sun will shine occasionally - even in Grimsville!

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#210776 - 10/04/12 10:09 PM Re: king kenny [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
The sun will shine occasionally - even in Grimsville!


A black cloud is never far away though
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#210780 - 10/04/12 10:10 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Actually a lot of fans are shareholders as well


Stanley! shocked You have an avatar!! shocked


I tried to put my own up but lifes too short.


Why not use the one I made for Faz??

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#210789 - 10/04/12 10:17 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Actually a lot of fans are shareholders as well


nope sorry Stan they are not. All shares sold to Hicks/Gillete when they completed the 2007 deal. Now owned by FSG.

Used to be split between Moores 60%ish, Granada TV 20% and then others

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#210790 - 10/04/12 10:18 PM Re: king kenny [Re: cp1972]
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Originally Posted By: cp1972
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Actually a lot of fans are shareholders as well


nope sorry Stan they are not. All shares sold to Hicks/Gillete when they completed the 2007 deal. Now owned by FSG.

Used to be split between Moores 60%ish, Granada TV 20% and then others


You are right sorry
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#210792 - 10/04/12 10:20 PM Re: king kenny [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: cp1972
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Actually a lot of fans are shareholders as well


nope sorry Stan they are not. All shares sold to Hicks/Gillete when they completed the 2007 deal. Now owned by FSG.

Used to be split between Moores 60%ish, Granada TV 20% and then others


You are right sorry


in Germany fans own a minumum of 25% by law. ooh how things would look different if fans had a real say.

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