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#212687 - 13/04/12 09:00 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: Stanley Park]
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SO NO FLETCHER OR JARVIS FOR YOU THEN?

I would most certainty sign these two now as wolves are buried.
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#212725 - 13/04/12 09:39 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Trust me KP we won't progress with Kenny Dalglish Aresnal and Newcastle have proper managers. Lets see if I am right or wrong if they do well and prove me wrong I will admit so and as a season ticket payer be damn glad to do so. However we don't know whether the blood letting by FSG has finished yet so all this os very presumptious.


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#212748 - 13/04/12 10:50 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
The basic truth is none of us knows. FSG are far away in Boston and have not really given us much to go on they have been very secretive and hands off. I do agree with one poster this is the start of much more active involvement by them. Whether Kenny stays or not I don't know but he will be in no doubt at all there can be no more seasons like the last one. I personally don't think he is up to the job and neber have done. Therefore if he stays its more pain for him and for us and next year is going to be very undignified.


Hey Stan - your comments a few weeks back of FSG not looking interested may have hit home. No doubt there in the game now and looking to make statements and show real intent. Whilst we disagree over Kenny staying/going I certainly think that whoever is in charge will get real support this summer. Kenny to habe one more go for me - I know your answer.

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#212751 - 13/04/12 11:07 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: Stanley Park]
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
The basic truth is none of us knows. FSG are far away in Boston and have not really given us much to go on they have been very secretive and hands off. I do agree with one poster this is the start of much more active involvement by them. Whether Kenny stays or not I don't know but he will be in no doubt at all there can be no more seasons like the last one. I personally don't think he is up to the job and neber have done. Therefore if he stays its more pain for him and for us and next year is going to be very undignified.


That is your projection... not a given. Next season could be a very different one depending on acquisitions. Look at the turnaround by teams like Newcastle and Arsenal lately... one season does not simply project the next. The game is in flux all the time. Both Kenny and FSG will know they can't repeat last summer... we'll see different sorts of players coming in this time. Our cup pedigree stands us in good stead for the Uefa cup... and we have to work on league consistency by strengthening personnel.


Trust me KP we won't progress with Kenny Dalglish Aresnal and Newcastle have proper managers. Lets see if I am right or wrong if they do well and prove me wrong I will admit so and as a season ticket payer be damn glad to do so. However we don't know whether the blood letting by FSG has finished yet so all this os very presumptious.


Really? There was a mini-uprising when Pardew was appointed. He got slated off the bat... and slowly worked his way into fan confidence. He was declared a championship level manager and unfit for a club like Newcastle. Shows what a bit of patience can do eh?

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#212760 - 13/04/12 11:25 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
The basic truth is none of us knows. FSG are far away in Boston and have not really given us much to go on they have been very secretive and hands off. I do agree with one poster this is the start of much more active involvement by them. Whether Kenny stays or not I don't know but he will be in no doubt at all there can be no more seasons like the last one. I personally don't think he is up to the job and neber have done. Therefore if he stays its more pain for him and for us and next year is going to be very undignified.


That is your projection... not a given. Next season could be a very different one depending on acquisitions. Look at the turnaround by teams like Newcastle and Arsenal lately... one season does not simply project the next. The game is in flux all the time. Both Kenny and FSG will know they can't repeat last summer... we'll see different sorts of players coming in this time. Our cup pedigree stands us in good stead for the Uefa cup... and we have to work on league consistency by strengthening personnel.


Trust me KP we won't progress with Kenny Dalglish Aresnal and Newcastle have proper managers. Lets see if I am right or wrong if they do well and prove me wrong I will admit so and as a season ticket payer be damn glad to do so. However we don't know whether the blood letting by FSG has finished yet so all this os very presumptious.


Really? There was a mini-uprising when Pardew was appointed. He got slated off the bat... and slowly worked his way into fan confidence. He was declared a championship level manager and unfit for a club like Newcastle. Shows what a bit of patience can do eh?


quite right KP,

Every newcastle fan I know (seem to know a disproportionate amount for someone who lives no where near newcastle), thought pardew was no good, hated that he sold big players and brought in hopefuls (I don't think most buys were as 'unknown' as some claim though), and on top of that thought it was ridiculous that houghton got sacked. Now they are all apologizing to Pardew for his incredible efforts.

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#212761 - 13/04/12 11:26 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: TheKopProphet]
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please tell me you are not comparing pardew to dalglish

come on now
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#212763 - 13/04/12 11:28 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: heggypompom]
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Well you are advocating Jol as our new manager.

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#212764 - 13/04/12 11:30 PM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: bigredkop]
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Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Really? There was a mini-uprising when Pardew was appointed. He got slated off the bat... and slowly worked his way into fan confidence. He was declared a championship level manager and unfit for a club like Newcastle. Shows what a bit of patience can do eh?


quite right KP,

Every newcastle fan I know (seem to know a disproportionate amount for someone who lives no where near newcastle), thought pardew was no good, hated that he sold big players and brought in hopefuls (I don't think most buys were as 'unknown' as some claim though), and on top of that thought it was ridiculous that houghton got sacked. Now they are all apologizing to Pardew for his incredible efforts.


Likewise, I know a couple of Toon fans. They were furious when Pardew was appointed and now they act like they never were and are full of cockiness at their league position. I actually like Newcastle, and I like Pardew too, but for their fans, I hope they have a very big reality check/fall from grace sooner rather than later.
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#212777 - 14/04/12 12:08 AM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: Bar]
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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
Really? There was a mini-uprising when Pardew was appointed. He got slated off the bat... and slowly worked his way into fan confidence. He was declared a championship level manager and unfit for a club like Newcastle. Shows what a bit of patience can do eh?


quite right KP,

Every newcastle fan I know (seem to know a disproportionate amount for someone who lives no where near newcastle), thought pardew was no good, hated that he sold big players and brought in hopefuls (I don't think most buys were as 'unknown' as some claim though), and on top of that thought it was ridiculous that houghton got sacked. Now they are all apologizing to Pardew for his incredible efforts.


Likewise, I know a couple of Toon fans. They were furious when Pardew was appointed and now they act like they never were and are full of cockiness at their league position. I actually like Newcastle, and I like Pardew too, but for their fans, I hope they have a very big reality check/fall from grace sooner rather than later.


Aw you gotta love Geordies though... next to Scousers they are the most passionate and loyal fans on the planet (excepting the 'loyalty' we see on this site of course!).

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#214103 - 16/04/12 11:26 AM Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man! [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Brought this thread back because I'd like some opinions on what people thought Werner meant by saying that FSG like the policy and will continue to follow it... but that Comolli was not the right man to see it through. I perceive that he meant we'd continue to buy young with sell on value... regardless of nationality. But I've heard others say that the buy British thing was specifically part of the FSG policy. However, they will have noted that our most successful transfers are the foreign ones rather than the British ones. Someone also told me that he was referring to the "moneyball" tactic of buying relatively unknown or unachieving players that can do a job... but I'm not sure we've been doing that. The whole point of moneyball is getting players cheaper and you can hardly say that about our transfers last summer. This is what leads me to believe that Comolli was sacked because of the size of the fees... although FSG would have signed the cheques at the time of purchase, thus sanctioning the sale. I'm not sure I like moneyball, as I understand it, so I'm sort of hoping that this wasn't what Werner was alluding to when saying we would keep embracing "the policy."

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