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#214917 - 18/04/12 02:51 PM
Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man!
[Re: TheKopProphet]
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Best discussion on KT in a while. I still think a lot of the judgment is retrospective and with the benefit of hindsight. I think the decision on Aquilani was our biggest mistake of the season. Yes I'd agree with that KP. I must admit I did hope the extra 'steel' in Adam would make him that creative player we needed after letting Aqualani go. Just to tide us over while we spent the bulk of our cash on attack. I don't think Adam has been as bad as some people claim, his stats are about as good as the rest of our signings, but yes we have been crying out for an Aqualani style player. I still think back to when him Gerrard and another played that one touch move around athletico that resulted in a mascerano (playing at righ back) ball across the box with Kuyt just unable to apply the finish. Would have been one of the best goals we ever scored in my opinion. Adam looked better earlier in the season while Gerrard was out. They might be too similar to play together, both needing a different type of midfielder alongside them. But for the half dozen games before he was injured he was absolutely appalling. It might be a confidence thing but he also looks off the pace a bit. Shelvey has looked a better bet in that position, although I would have loved to have seen Aquilani given a chance. It'll be interesting to see what we do with Cole and Aquilani in the summer. I also think Henderson looks better when Gerrard is out. I think Kenny and the coaching staff knew they had to gamble this season, I mean in that they had to play the new lads from the start and give them games. Ideally as mentioned we should have only put 2/3 into the team at one time. That said maybe the benefit is in the long term, all have had their moments and crucially improved in recent games. Downing, Carroll,Henderson, Coates have all played well. It has however taken them 30+games(excluding Coates) to settle in which seems alot - Enrique has had a good season but needed a break. the question is whether the strategy of persisting with these players will pay off from now on? will the run till the end of the season be the time the new Liverpool stands up, a few journo's have started to make comments(Oliver Holt,Patrick Barclay) that Liverpool have been to the abyss and a new younger hungrier side is starting to emerge. A few late winners can certainly install confidence but to turn a team right round I am not so sure. Although Arsenal did earlier in the season and UTD after winning the FA Cup in 1990 never looked back.
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#214940 - 18/04/12 04:29 PM
Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man!
[Re: cp1972]
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Registered: 21/07/11
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Best discussion on KT in a while. I still think a lot of the judgment is retrospective and with the benefit of hindsight. I think the decision on Aquilani was our biggest mistake of the season. Yes I'd agree with that KP. I must admit I did hope the extra 'steel' in Adam would make him that creative player we needed after letting Aqualani go. Just to tide us over while we spent the bulk of our cash on attack. I don't think Adam has been as bad as some people claim, his stats are about as good as the rest of our signings, but yes we have been crying out for an Aqualani style player. I still think back to when him Gerrard and another played that one touch move around athletico that resulted in a mascerano (playing at righ back) ball across the box with Kuyt just unable to apply the finish. Would have been one of the best goals we ever scored in my opinion. Adam looked better earlier in the season while Gerrard was out. They might be too similar to play together, both needing a different type of midfielder alongside them. But for the half dozen games before he was injured he was absolutely appalling. It might be a confidence thing but he also looks off the pace a bit. Shelvey has looked a better bet in that position, although I would have loved to have seen Aquilani given a chance. It'll be interesting to see what we do with Cole and Aquilani in the summer. I also think Henderson looks better when Gerrard is out. I think Kenny and the coaching staff knew they had to gamble this season, I mean in that they had to play the new lads from the start and give them games. Ideally as mentioned we should have only put 2/3 into the team at one time. That said maybe the benefit is in the long term, all have had their moments and crucially improved in recent games. Downing, Carroll,Henderson, Coates have all played well. It has however taken them 30+games(excluding Coates) to settle in which seems alot - Enrique has had a good season but needed a break. the question is whether the strategy of persisting with these players will pay off from now on? will the run till the end of the season be the time the new Liverpool stands up, a few journo's have started to make comments(Oliver Holt,Patrick Barclay) that Liverpool have been to the abyss and a new younger hungrier side is starting to emerge. A few late winners can certainly install confidence but to turn a team right round I am not so sure. Although Arsenal did earlier in the season and UTD after winning the FA Cup in 1990 never looked back. Carroll has definitely improved. Downing has definitely improved but I still think his best games for us were at beginning of season and around the CC final, think he's slipped again. I personally have not seen Henderson improve one iota, I think he's as much a waste of a position as he was from day one here. He never does the right thing. His only 'good games' from what I can see were the goal he scored and when he played right back because he got forward better and I didn't expect as much from him as he was in an unfamiliar position.
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#214942 - 18/04/12 04:33 PM
Re: FSG like the policy - but say Comolli is the wrong man!
[Re: TheKopProphet]
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Registered: 21/07/11
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Best discussion on KT in a while. I still think a lot of the judgment is retrospective and with the benefit of hindsight. I think the decision on Aquilani was our biggest mistake of the season. Yes I'd agree with that KP. I must admit I did hope the extra 'steel' in Adam would make him that creative player we needed after letting Aqualani go. Just to tide us over while we spent the bulk of our cash on attack. I don't think Adam has been as bad as some people claim, his stats are about as good as the rest of our signings, but yes we have been crying out for an Aqualani style player. I still think back to when him Gerrard and another played that one touch move around athletico that resulted in a mascerano (playing at righ back) ball across the box with Kuyt just unable to apply the finish. Would have been one of the best goals we ever scored in my opinion. Adam looked better earlier in the season while Gerrard was out. They might be too similar to play together, both needing a different type of midfielder alongside them. But for the half dozen games before he was injured he was absolutely appalling. It might be a confidence thing but he also looks off the pace a bit. Shelvey has looked a better bet in that position, although I would have loved to have seen Aquilani given a chance. It'll be interesting to see what we do with Cole and Aquilani in the summer. Similarly as I said above I don't think Henderson has looked good ever, whether with or without gerrard. He has been for me our worst player that gets regular game time. I agree with you on shelvey. I know its early doors but I really really like him. I think for such a young guy (19 I think?) he looks so composed, unafraid to take risks (sometimes manifesting itself in making the wrong decision, but that's youth for you), and has a bit of vision and sometimes a really good pass on him. I want to see more and more of him in games. I can't see how aqualani and cole can come back and have Liverpool careers. I think both have a lot more to give don't get me wrong, but too much water has gone under the bridge now. I just don't think they will want to play for the shirt.
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