I think you should - it made for excellent reading. Do you have a list also which shows the records that we have broken this season? I know we've lost to clubs that haven't beaten us in decades, lost at home more than ever and had chronic losing streaks but some actual data would be very interesting...

Unfortunately, people have very short memories, Gaz!

It did indeed make great reading. It's worth pointing out thought, that hardly any of, it any at all of the records were set in Rafa's first season or two in charge, were they? From memory the majority of them were set in 2007-2009

We don't want that tone on here. Please knock it off

Everyone will have different views on how the club moves forward, my opinion is that we bought players who weren't and never will be good enough for Liverpool no matter how many chances they are given!

If you look at Man Utd, every player who hasn't fitted in has been gotten rid of very quickly, Djemba Djemba, Kleberson, Forlan and Veron to name a few! All these players cost good money but the difference is we persist where as Utd move on! These guys are professional footballers, I understand a bedding in period but in any line of work if you don't perform for a whole year you would be gone, simple!

If we plan to give Adam, Downing, Henderson and Carroll more starts to help them gel then expect us to come 8th because we aren't good enough to come any higher!

There's a hell of a lot of baiting going on on the forum at the moment, I think that needs to be monitored just as much as people responding to it, to be honest. It's getting a bit ridiculous at this stage.

So,a genuine question is asked and it gets dismissed out of hand,is that where we are at now?

It was your follow up response to me that was out of order, not your sarcastic question that I responded to. You must see that?

I have asked that question several times,never get an answer to it though,it wasn't sarcastic,that was you making assumptions again,your dismissal of it so readily was wholly ignorant.

I don't follow. All I said was that LFC fans would not call for the head of their manager (regardless of who he was) if he was doing well in the league. A lot of people wanted Roy out because he was doing poorly in the league. Same applies to Kenny. Whilst Rafa was flying high no one was calling for his head. Whilst Houllier was flying high no one was calling for his head. Whilst Evans was flying high no one was calling for his head.