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#216769 - 24/04/12 09:23 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Snakeye]
Solar Offline
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i'm not the moderator you need, but the moderator you deserve.

for what it's worth i'll vote Stanley Park.


Edited by Solar (24/04/12 09:24 PM)

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#216771 - 24/04/12 09:25 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Snakeye]
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Bar and Stanley Park for me.

I can't believe Growler isn't already a moderator.
Does this mean he has been handing out coconuts without a licence.

Growler for me also.

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#216822 - 24/04/12 11:03 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Shaggydog]
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What does it mean to be a moderator. What are this site's policies on moderation? Until that is understood I don't think it's fair to allow nominations for moderators.

My own veiw (which may be completely dissimilar to Dunk's for all I know) is that moderators should be fair, impartial, even-handed, and not overly corrective or power-hungry. I am a big advocate of free speech as long as it doesn't infringe on peoples rights, demean them by race/religion/gender/sexual preference etc., or include libel or slander. I don't think heated conversations or debates need to be excessively moderated unless there is an element of undue malice, personal threat, or discrimination. Excessive censorship is therefore not a good thing.

A moderator should have a good disposition but not necessarily be an automaton or a fence-rider. Sometimes moderators exacerbate problems by trying to be too middle-of-the-road or wishy-washy. But I don't think you can choose moderators who are excessively negative and controversial either. I just witnessed the demise of what was a very rigorous Liverpool MB - myself and E(SSO) came over from that site. Poor moderation was one of the factors behind its demise.

These comments aren't an attempt to gain nomination for the position - I know I would never be considered. But some of the people being nominated will spell trouble if they are given the role. I am genuinely interested in Kop Talk's stance on the issue of moderation and censorship. I have witnessed instances where one person got banned in a trade of insults between two posters, which I think was the wrong action to take. I have also noted a couple of decent posters not come back after receiving a short ban. There have also been instances where people have survived despite committing worse verbal offenses of those that were banned. I think I have some good recommendations for moderators but it all depends on Kop Talk's policy.

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#216824 - 24/04/12 11:07 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Goodness me !
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#216827 - 24/04/12 11:11 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Stanley Park]
aldo
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BarLennon or Thundyr.

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#216828 - 24/04/12 11:11 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Stanley Park]
TheKopProphet Offline
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Goodness me !


Christ, how have I wounded you now??? Are these unfair questions to ask? Really??????

I despair of you SP.... and you have just demonstrated why you are unfit to be a moderator.

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#216832 - 24/04/12 11:19 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: TheKopProphet]
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Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
What does it mean to be a moderator. What are this site's policies on moderation? Until that is understood I don't think it's fair to allow nominations for moderators.

My own veiw (which may be completely dissimilar to Dunk's for all I know) is that moderators should be fair, impartial, even-handed, and not overly corrective or power-hungry. I am a big advocate of free speech as long as it doesn't infringe on peoples rights, demean them by race/religion/gender/sexual preference etc., or include libel or slander. I don't think heated conversations or debates need to be excessively moderated unless there is an element of undue malice, personal threat, or discrimination. Excessive censorship is therefore not a good thing.

A moderator should have a good disposition but not necessarily be an automaton or a fence-rider. Sometimes moderators exacerbate problems by trying to be too middle-of-the-road or wishy-washy. But I don't think you can choose moderators who are excessively negative and controversial either. I just witnessed the demise of what was a very rigorous Liverpool MB - myself and E(SSO) came over from that site. Poor moderation was one of the factors behind its demise.

These comments aren't an attempt to gain nomination for the position - I know I would never be considered. But some of the people being nominated will spell trouble if they are given the role. I am genuinely interested in Kop Talk's stance on the issue of moderation and censorship. I have witnessed instances where one person got banned in a trade of insults between two posters, which I think was the wrong action to take. I have also noted a couple of decent posters not come back after receiving a short ban. There have also been instances where people have survived despite committing worse verbal offenses of those that were banned. I think I have some good recommendations for moderators but it all depends on Kop Talk's policy.


Do you not think you are taking this a bit too seriously?????
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#216839 - 24/04/12 11:27 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Carheex]
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thanks all for the vote of confidence !!!!!

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#216840 - 24/04/12 11:28 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: Carheex]
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: TheKopProphet
What does it mean to be a moderator. What are this site's policies on moderation? Until that is understood I don't think it's fair to allow nominations for moderators.

My own veiw (which may be completely dissimilar to Dunk's for all I know) is that moderators should be fair, impartial, even-handed, and not overly corrective or power-hungry. I am a big advocate of free speech as long as it doesn't infringe on peoples rights, demean them by race/religion/gender/sexual preference etc., or include libel or slander. I don't think heated conversations or debates need to be excessively moderated unless there is an element of undue malice, personal threat, or discrimination. Excessive censorship is therefore not a good thing.

A moderator should have a good disposition but not necessarily be an automaton or a fence-rider. Sometimes moderators exacerbate problems by trying to be too middle-of-the-road or wishy-washy. But I don't think you can choose moderators who are excessively negative and controversial either. I just witnessed the demise of what was a very rigorous Liverpool MB - myself and E(SSO) came over from that site. Poor moderation was one of the factors behind its demise.

These comments aren't an attempt to gain nomination for the position - I know I would never be considered. But some of the people being nominated will spell trouble if they are given the role. I am genuinely interested in Kop Talk's stance on the issue of moderation and censorship. I have witnessed instances where one person got banned in a trade of insults between two posters, which I think was the wrong action to take. I have also noted a couple of decent posters not come back after receiving a short ban. There have also been instances where people have survived despite committing worse verbal offenses of those that were banned. I think I have some good recommendations for moderators but it all depends on Kop Talk's policy.


Do you not think you are taking this a bit too seriously?????


Not really. I just scribble thoughts... and besides, issues of censorship I find important. I think others take it just as seriously... there's no harm in asking what the official stance is.

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#216847 - 24/04/12 11:37 PM Re: NEW MODERATORS - SUGGESTIONS? [Re: TheKopProphet]
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I actually agree with some of what you said, especially regarding censorship, feedom of expression/speech etc. In an earlier post I suggested a moderator-free weekend as an experiment. We're all adults - what's the worst that could happen? In many ways, too much moderation is worse than none. To a certain degree, nasty insults need to be cut out of course, but are we that fragile that we need prefects around telling us off just for calling someone a 'd1ck', for example?
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