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#226032 - 14/05/12 03:32 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: ]
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I generally agree about what youy are saying there, but what would we have argued if Carroll's header against Chelski had gone into the net, and we had won the FA Cup either in extra time or on penalties...????

Resting some players against Fulham would have been worth it then, right?

Small margins!

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#226037 - 14/05/12 03:44 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: van Gogh]
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yes but the plan backfired

Personally we lost to Chelsea because we got the tactics wrong and left it too late

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#226041 - 14/05/12 03:46 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: cjkent]
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Yep!

Why the hell rest Carroll there!??

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#226044 - 14/05/12 03:47 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: van Gogh]
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yep as a manager you live by the sword and die by it

and Kenny stabbed himself there

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#226047 - 14/05/12 03:50 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: van Gogh]
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Kenny has placed faith in players who have let him and the club down this season, Henderson, Downing and Spearing being the main culprits!

You watch Andy Carroll go to the Euros and be an absolute monster for England!

If Kenny keeps faith with the same players who have let him down this season, then he deserves to fall on the sword for it!

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#226065 - 14/05/12 05:09 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: Chris2402]
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Originally Posted By: Chris2402
Kenny has placed faith in players who have let him and the club down this season, Henderson, Downing and Spearing being the main culprits!

You watch Andy Carroll go to the Euros and be an absolute monster for England!

If Kenny keeps faith with the same players who have let him down this season, then he deserves to fall on the sword for it!


I don't think Carroll will go to euros I think it will be crouch. But its a tough one and carroll is in form but can he finish? As for the players letting him down maybe but he bought them and their performance is his responsibility.
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#226066 - 14/05/12 05:13 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: Stanley Park]
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tactics played apart especially at home

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#226078 - 14/05/12 05:59 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: Stanley Park]
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Yes he did buy them so thats on him, however his main problem has been his loyalty to under-performing players. How Henderson has started nearly every game this season is beyond me?

When you have established club and international players like Kuyt and Maxi sitting on the bench week in week out behind the same under-performing rubbish, this is where Kenny's main problem has been this season.

So yes I agree with you, it's his own fault!

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#226087 - 14/05/12 06:24 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: Chris2402]
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Originally Posted By: Chris2402
Yes he did buy them so thats on him, however his main problem has been his loyalty to under-performing players. How Henderson has started nearly every game this season is beyond me?

When you have established club and international players like Kuyt and Maxi sitting on the bench week in week out behind the same under-performing rubbish, this is where Kenny's main problem has been this season.

So yes I agree with you, it's his own fault!


Agreed. People try to defend kenny by saying certain players let him down. Henderson is a very poor player for example - just because kenny shelled out £16-£20m on him that doesn't mean he's going to start playing like he's worth that kind of money - he can't, he just isn't good enough. He's played to his ability level - it's kenny's fault that he thinks JH is good enough when the rest of the world are scratching their heads.
The only player that has looked much worse this season is Adam. In his favour though, he was the cheapest and has still contributed more than downing and henderson put together! All-in-all, kenny's summer transfer window last year must have been the most disastrous of any manager in history and he must be held accountable.
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#226092 - 14/05/12 06:42 PM Re: Attention Kenny out brigade!! [Re: Carheex]
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Our last summer transfer window would take some beating, I can remember big clubs making big mistakes in the transfer market, Veron and Blanc, etc.

The difference being that other clubs realise their mistakes and correct them, they don't continually play players in the hope that they will eventually deliver!!!

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