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#225661 - 14/05/12 12:44 AM I'll Be suprised if.......
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Are there any positives that we can take from this season??
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#225663 - 14/05/12 12:47 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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Originally Posted By: syko26
this post get's more than a page long,

Are there any positives that we can take from this season??
yes taking the cups serious was a nice change , but the bad vastly outweighs any good the cup runs have bought vastly outweigh .

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#225664 - 14/05/12 12:47 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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Carling cup
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#225666 - 14/05/12 12:50 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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We've got a decent crop of youngsters slowly coming through, doesn't help right now but bodes well for the future...
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#225667 - 14/05/12 12:54 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: derek]
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The kit deal, freezing season ticket prices improving the pavements around the Arkles. I almost broke my neck there last year.
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#225668 - 14/05/12 12:55 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: smithlee2011]
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Originally Posted By: smithlee2011
Carling cup
FA cup final
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The FA cup final was an embarassing we only played for half an hour!!

The Carling cup we won after sruggling to draw with a championship side after 90 mins, only to go on and strugle to finish the job in a penalty shoot out!! and that's positive??
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#225696 - 14/05/12 01:28 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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Did we win it?
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#225703 - 14/05/12 01:33 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: evans09]
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Originally Posted By: evans09
Did we win it?
I'm not denying a wins a win but, the fact is we struggled against a championship side and I can't see any positives in that. You may be willing to float along on the carling cup cloud but I'm not. We are Liverpool Football Club we set the standards others used to follow, now we are a laughing stock. Are you happy with that??


Edited by syko26 (14/05/12 01:34 AM)
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#225707 - 14/05/12 01:36 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: evans09]
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New kit looks the part.
Carragher finaly being phased out.
Dalglish finaly been found out from when he knocked us off our perch all those years ago.

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#225709 - 14/05/12 01:37 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: ianrush81]
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#225713 - 14/05/12 01:42 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: ianrush81]
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Originally Posted By: ianrush81
New kit looks the part.
Carragher finaly being phased out.
Dalglish finaly been found out from when he knocked us off our perch all those years ago.
I stand corrected grin
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#225748 - 14/05/12 02:07 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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Originally Posted By: syko26
Originally Posted By: evans09
Did we win it?
I'm not denying a wins a win but, the fact is we struggled against a championship side and I can't see any positives in that. You may be willing to float along on the carling cup cloud but I'm not. We are Liverpool Football Club we set the standards others used to follow, now we are a laughing stock. Are you happy with that??


Who said we where happy floating on a Carling Cup cloud?

The original question was, are there any positives from this season and a cup win is a positive

Never said it was a good season

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#225757 - 14/05/12 02:16 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: smithlee2011]
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Originally Posted By: smithlee2011
Originally Posted By: syko26
Originally Posted By: evans09
Did we win it?
I'm not denying a wins a win but, the fact is we struggled against a championship side and I can't see any positives in that. You may be willing to float along on the carling cup cloud but I'm not. We are Liverpool Football Club we set the standards others used to follow, now we are a laughing stock. Are you happy with that??


Who said we where happy floating on a Carling Cup cloud?

The original question was, are there any positives from this season and a cup win is a positive

Never said it was a good season
So the Carling cup is a positive then?
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#225760 - 14/05/12 02:16 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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Originally Posted By: syko26
Originally Posted By: smithlee2011
Originally Posted By: syko26
Originally Posted By: evans09
Did we win it?
I'm not denying a wins a win but, the fact is we struggled against a championship side and I can't see any positives in that. You may be willing to float along on the carling cup cloud but I'm not. We are Liverpool Football Club we set the standards others used to follow, now we are a laughing stock. Are you happy with that??


Who said we where happy floating on a Carling Cup cloud?

The original question was, are there any positives from this season and a cup win is a positive

Never said it was a good season
So the Carling cup is a positive then?


Yes

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#225763 - 14/05/12 02:18 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: smithlee2011]
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for every championship and league one/two team around
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#225764 - 14/05/12 02:19 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: heggypompom]
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If its not a positive why do we bother entering it?

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#225766 - 14/05/12 02:19 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: smithlee2011]
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Your easily pleased then!!
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#225769 - 14/05/12 02:20 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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Originally Posted By: syko26
Your easily pleased then!!


Maybe you should read what i said again

"Who said we where happy floating on a Carling Cup cloud?

The original question was, are there any positives from this season and a cup win is a positive

Never said it was a good season"

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#225770 - 14/05/12 02:20 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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After reading this thread.....rope anyone? whistle
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#225773 - 14/05/12 02:25 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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Originally Posted By: syko26
Originally Posted By: evans09
Did we win it?
I'm not denying a wins a win but, the fact is we struggled against a championship side and I can't see any positives in that. You may be willing to float along on the carling cup cloud but I'm not. We are Liverpool Football Club we set the standards others used to follow, now we are a laughing stock. Are you happy with that??


Man City "struggled" to beat QPR today who had 10 men. City had the best home record in the league. QPR had the worst away record. Yet QPR almost won with 10 men at the Etihad. This sh*t happens in football. Like them today, we won in the end. That's what matters.
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#225777 - 14/05/12 02:28 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: Bar]
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who gives a dam about winning the carling cup on penalties against a championship team that deserve to beat us in normal time

We should be ashamed of this not celebrating the fact.
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#225778 - 14/05/12 02:30 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: heggypompom]
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Originally Posted By: heggypompom
who gives a dam about winning the carling cup on penalties against a championship team that deserve to beat us in normal time

We should be ashamed of this not celebrating the fact.

Can't believe what nonsense I'm reading.

Does winning the Carling Cup mean that our season was an outstanding success? No. Nobody here is saying or even implying that. But for f*cksake it's a trophy! Have you also forgotten than we won away to Chelsea, Man City and Stoke on the way to getting to the final?

Ashamed of winning a trophy. F*cking pathetic comment to make.


Edited by BarLennon (14/05/12 02:31 AM)
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#225779 - 14/05/12 02:32 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: heggypompom]
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Bollox to that Heggy,no trophy for 6 years,take them anyway you can get them,was the same in 2001 Carling cup and 2006 Fa cup.
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#225780 - 14/05/12 02:32 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: smithlee2011]
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Originally Posted By: smithlee2011
If its not a positive why do we bother entering it?
It's a thinly veiled positive you have to admit! Is this what we will have to expect next season if we win it again and nothing else next season would you still see it as a positive. As a club the yard stick used to measure club success is the copmpetitions and championships we contest with leagues top sides aswell as the rest of Europe, this defines your status in your own league and the rest of Europe...... where do you think the Carling cup rates in all of this?? A club like ours needs these types of positives to survive. Whilst winning the Carling cup could be seen as progress it's not positive tho', because of the status it holds amonst our european counterparts. We neen to be competing in the top comps because of the money and the respect that is generated on the back of that.


Edited by syko26 (14/05/12 02:35 AM)
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#225781 - 14/05/12 02:33 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: syko26]
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It is a positive,it is something to try and build on,I remember Spurs winning this a few seasons ago,hasn't done them any harm.
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#225782 - 14/05/12 02:34 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: Bar]
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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: heggypompom
who gives a dam about winning the carling cup on penalties against a championship team that deserve to beat us in normal time

We should be ashamed of this not celebrating the fact.

Can't believe what nonsense I'm reading.

Does winning the Carling Cup mean that our season was an outstanding success? No. Nobody here is saying or even implying that. But for f*cksake it's a trophy! Have you also forgotten than we won away to Chelsea, Man City and Stoke on the way to getting to the final?

Ashamed of winning a trophy. F*cking pathetic comment to make.


Exactly

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#225783 - 14/05/12 02:34 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: wakka]
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you missing the point wakka

we love the trophy all day long

but the manner (CONSIDERING THE OPPOSITION) in which it was won was not satisfactory, IMO
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#225785 - 14/05/12 02:36 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: heggypompom]
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Thats what happens in Finals,they rarely go to your plan,teams who get to finals deserve to be there and are going to give it there best shot,giant killing should never happen in the cups but they do.
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#225786 - 14/05/12 02:37 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: wakka]
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fair point mate
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#225789 - 14/05/12 02:40 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: heggypompom]
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That opposition deserved to be in that final ahead of many PL clubs so you can't take anything away from that

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#225804 - 14/05/12 02:58 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: Bar]
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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: heggypompom
who gives a dam about winning the carling cup on penalties against a championship team that deserve to beat us in normal time

We should be ashamed of this not celebrating the fact.

Can't believe what nonsense I'm reading.

Does winning the Carling Cup mean that our season was an outstanding success? No. Nobody here is saying or even implying that. But for f*cksake it's a trophy! Have you also forgotten than we won away to Chelsea, Man City and Stoke on the way to getting to the final?

Ashamed of winning a trophy. F*cking pathetic comment to make.


With you there mate! I think we are on different sides of the fence with regards to dalglish but f*cking hell how is winning a trophy not a positive? It's called WINNING. It's probably the least important trophy granted, but only one team can win it every year and this year it was us! That is a positive in a season of negatives.

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#225810 - 14/05/12 03:05 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: bigredkop]
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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: heggypompom
who gives a dam about winning the carling cup on penalties against a championship team that deserve to beat us in normal time

We should be ashamed of this not celebrating the fact.

Can't believe what nonsense I'm reading.

Does winning the Carling Cup mean that our season was an outstanding success? No. Nobody here is saying or even implying that. But for f*cksake it's a trophy! Have you also forgotten than we won away to Chelsea, Man City and Stoke on the way to getting to the final?

Ashamed of winning a trophy. F*cking pathetic comment to make.


With you there mate! I think we are on different sides of the fence with regards to dalglish but f*cking hell how is winning a trophy not a positive? It's called WINNING. It's probably the least important trophy granted, but only one team can win it every year and this year it was us! That is a positive in a season of negatives.

Exactly. Suggesting that it's a cup not worth winning and all of the other nonsense written about it is just childish, and are the acts of people feelings sorry for themselves, to be fair.

As for being on different sides of the fence about Dalglish, I wouldn't say that. I stick up for Dalglish a lot, but it's mostly to do with the uncalled-for personal comments that certain people make towards him. That sh*t isn't right in my eyes, and I don't like to see it. I've said all along that I'm split as to whether I want him to stay or not. I would love nothing more than to see Kenny succeed with us, but I'm not convinced he can. I'll support whatever decision the owners make regarding him.

I don't agree with the suggestions of him going into a DoF role. I think that if he departs as manager then he should be away from the first team altogether. Also, if he goes, it had better be for a decent replacement with the long term in mind and not another Roy Hodgson-esque stopgap. No point getting rid of a manager for the sake of it without having someone decent to bring in in place.
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#225815 - 14/05/12 03:13 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: Bar]
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Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: bigredkop
Originally Posted By: BarLennon
Originally Posted By: heggypompom
who gives a dam about winning the carling cup on penalties against a championship team that deserve to beat us in normal time

We should be ashamed of this not celebrating the fact.

Can't believe what nonsense I'm reading.

Does winning the Carling Cup mean that our season was an outstanding success? No. Nobody here is saying or even implying that. But for f*cksake it's a trophy! Have you also forgotten than we won away to Chelsea, Man City and Stoke on the way to getting to the final?

Ashamed of winning a trophy. F*cking pathetic comment to make.


With you there mate! I think we are on different sides of the fence with regards to dalglish but f*cking hell how is winning a trophy not a positive? It's called WINNING. It's probably the least important trophy granted, but only one team can win it every year and this year it was us! That is a positive in a season of negatives.

Exactly. Suggesting that it's a cup not worth winning and all of the other nonsense written about it is just childish, and are the acts of people feelings sorry for themselves, to be fair.

As for being on different sides of the fence about Dalglish, I wouldn't say that. I stick up for Dalglish a lot, but it's mostly to do with the uncalled-for personal comments that certain people make towards him. That sh*t isn't right in my eyes, and I don't like to see it. I've said all along that I'm split as to whether I want him to stay or not. I would love nothing more than to see Kenny succeed with us, but I'm not convinced he can. I'll support whatever decision the owners make regarding him.

I don't agree with the suggestions of him going into a DoF role. I think that if he departs as manager then he should be away from the first team altogether. Also, if he goes, it had better be for a decent replacement with the long term in mind and not another Roy Hodgson-esque stopgap. No point getting rid of a manager for the sake of it without having someone decent to bring in in place.


Very sound logic. I'm fairly convinced Kenny can't do it though myself. But that certainly isn't beyond debate as he still might turn it all around. Fully agree about people getting personal though. Also completely agree on the replacement. I want to stay clear of people like martinez.

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#225818 - 14/05/12 03:13 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: Bar]
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The negativity on this forum never ceases to amaze me.

If winning the carling cup isn't a positive for you then I suggest you turn your back on football. Or go and support man city where you glory hunters belong

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#225822 - 14/05/12 03:17 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: Jammer]
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Originally Posted By: Jammer
The negativity on this forum never ceases to amaze me.

If winning the carling cup isn't a positive for you then I suggest you turn your back on football. Or go and support man city where you glory hunters belong


At the start of this season if you said we would finish 8th and win the carling cup you would be accused of being negative. Almost everyone said minimum 4th place and some even thought we would win the league. Myself I thought 5th but with luck we might get 4th. It has been a disaster of a season and no window dressing can change that.


Edited by Stanley Park (14/05/12 03:18 AM)
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#225962 - 14/05/12 05:50 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: heggypompom]
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#225975 - 14/05/12 09:18 AM Re: I'll Be suprised if....... [Re: Jammer]
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yes Jammer We all will follow you then
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