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On thursday, SkyBet was offering Dempsey to Liverpool @ odds 1/5. On wednesday, odds were 4/6. Today, betting on Dempsey has been suspended. On the other hand, yesterday Dempsey's name was found listed on LFC's official website and then, it was taken off few minutes later. All these things indicate the deal has reached to concluding stage and it must be concluded imminently.
brilliant transfer.can't wait to see him knocking in the goals for us. wasn't he just amazing against us last year in anfield..stole the show..he can get us 4th
Anyway I would only believe it if I see him shaking the hands of our manager on the official website. Other than that I would say that it's still a rumour.
#249283 - 14/07/1204:21 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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I think he will be a decent signing. But lots of players find it hard to make the jump in standards to a club like liverpool. I thought Robbie Keane was going to be a good player for us but he could not make the leap. Hopefully it will be different with Dempsey.
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Agreed, i think borini will hit the ground running , dempsey may struggle to live up to this rather sudden reputation he has of being a world beater, would have preferred maxi to stay, having said that to replace kuyt dempsey will be a sensible buy if it happens
I think he will be a decent signing. But lots of players find it hard to make the jump in standards to a club like liverpool. I thought Robbie Keane was going to be a good player for us but he could not make the leap. Hopefully it will be different with Dempsey.
Stan, it was clear that keane wasn't a benitez signing and he never really got a fair crack at it. I think rafa could be a bit of a bollix when he wanted to be. I remember he had keane warming up for part of. the 1st half and the whole 2nd half and didn't bring him on? Keane was a pawn in a bigger battle. Hopefully that'll never happen in LFC again.
Yeah I hope it's true, but even if Clint Dempsey signs for us, I still have this nagging feeling that none of Suarez, Dempsey or Borini are out and out goal machines. They are all more in the playmaker mould, than out and out strikers, perhaps their combined weight will do the trick. However I can't shake off this awful dread that we will be unable to drive through and/or around all those pesky parked buses we are going to find littered across the box in Anfield this coming season. Maybe I'm still suffering from post traumatic stress as a result of the enormous trauma we sustained in front of goal last season, or maybe I've shipped some of those nasty germs of negativity that 'comes dropping slow' from some posters on this site. Oh by the way Aldo, you're a medical student, can you possibly diagnose and perhaps prognosticate with a view towards a positive prescription for this dropsy like condition? Thanks Doc
#249297 - 14/07/1205:20 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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I like Dempsey, I've very rarely seen the fella have a bad game and IMO has been a consistently good player for a number of years. I also like how he's a fighter and keeps on going. Rodgers said that there will be one (Boroni), maybe 2 players coming in this week, I'll assume that it Dempsey, and I'll hope that he is signed by Monday. If not I think I'll believe the swap Rumours.
I agree with you annefield to the extent that possession football is not much good without incisiveness, however suarez alone provided enough of that to leave defences in tatters, all that is needed is someone who can be there in the box to tap the ball in, dempesy can do that, i am sure borini would be able to manage it.
Andy carrol while providing the heading option needs a couple of years to learn how to exploit his own talents and is not 'ready' for premiership football, (unless he plays for allerdyce)
#249317 - 14/07/1206:57 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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I disagree. Suarez is great. He makes chances out of nothing, but he can't be our only incisive option. It's too one-dimensional and easily countered.
Agreed 100%. If we can, somehow, add another Suarez to the attack it will create more spcae for him and the chance for him to be even better and more effective.
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#249350 - 14/07/1209:25 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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What we need to do (and it looks like Rodgers is operating somewhat along these lines given "Siggi-gate") is sign up players who have just had one of those "wonder seasons" offer them very maaaaaaaaaaaaarginally better contracts that they are on at their present clubs - with the incentive of an improved contract if they produce.
Give players the opportunity to step up career wise (we're talking about the Dempsey's / Adam's ect.) and reward them accordingly. What they've achieved in the past with their respective clubs has earned them the chance to play at Anfield, but what they've achieved means nothing until they produce at Liverpool F.C.
If they would rather apply their trade at a club who will initially pay them a kings ransom, then so be it.. we don't want players who think they've "made it" and take their foot off the gas because of the size of their bank balance - these players never wanted to play for the shirt in the first place.
Rodgers has to sell them his philosophy, his ideas... excite and inspire them, make them want to be here.. fight for and wear the famous Red shirt with pride!
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#249359 - 14/07/1210:03 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: Ged
What we need to do (and it looks like Rodgers is operating somewhat along these lines given "Siggi-gate") is sign up players who have just had one of those "wonder seasons" offer them very maaaaaaaaaaaaarginally better contracts that they are on at their present clubs - with the incentive of an improved contract if they produce.
Give players the opportunity to step up career wise (we're talking about the Dempsey's / Adam's ect.) and reward them accordingly. What they've achieved in the past with their respective clubs has earned them the chance to play at Anfield, but what they've achieved means nothing until they produce at Liverpool F.C.
If they would rather apply their trade at a club who will initially pay them a kings ransom, then so be it.. we don't want players who think they've "made it" and take their foot off the gas because of the size of their bank balance - these players never wanted to play for the shirt in the first place.
Rodgers has to sell them his philosophy, his ideas... excite and inspire them, make them want to be here.. fight for and wear the famous Red shirt with pride!
...
Disagree with that, and I find it quite arrogant considering where we are as a club. Many years ago we might have been able to offer people this 'glorious opportunity' of playing at anfield, but these days players don't see Anfield as some kind of magical place. To the modern player, we're just another club that isn't good enough for top flight european football.
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#249362 - 14/07/1210:14 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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If they don't see Anfield as a step up from the Fulham's & Blackpool's - playing alongside the Gerrard's / Reina's / Agger's / Suarez's / Johnson's... THE KOP - then leave them be.
World class players who are tried and tested are another story, but the players above that I mentioned should be scratching at the walls, itching to run out at Anfield (not that ANYONE shouldn't ;))
If you think we're just another Bolton or West Ham then you've never been to Anfield.
Seriously.
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#249364 - 14/07/1210:20 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Yes we're undoubtedly a step up from fulham/blackpool but we are hardly the pinnacle these days - many players would indeed see us as an opportunity...but only as a stepping stone to something bigger. You're looking at it from a lifelong liverpool supporters point of view though, and not from that of a neutral player with no affiliation to LFC. Of COURSE you and I see playing at anfield as a big opportunity, but there are far more teams offering bigger opportunities. We are NOT the fearsome force we once were and our stadium is a derelict sh!thole compared a lot of others. If you still see us as a european giant with a stadium that eclipses all others 'then you've never been to anfield'.
Seriously.
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#249365 - 14/07/1210:22 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
You're looking at it from a lifelong liverpool supporters point of view though, and not from that of a neutral player with no affiliation to LFC. Of COURSE you and I see playing at anfield as a big opportunity, but there are far more teams offering bigger opportunities. We are NOT the fearsome force we once were and our stadium is a derelict sh!thole compared a lot of others. If you still see us as a european giant with a stadium that eclipses all others 'then you've never been to anfield'.
Seriously.
Why even bother...
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You're looking at it from a lifelong liverpool supporters point of view though, and not from that of a neutral player with no affiliation to LFC. Of COURSE you and I see playing at anfield as a big opportunity, but there are far more teams offering bigger opportunities. We are NOT the fearsome force we once were and our stadium is a derelict sh!thole compared a lot of others. If you still see us as a european giant with a stadium that eclipses all others 'then you've never been to anfield'.
Seriously.
Why even bother...
Ha, ha, thought it wouldn't take you long to suss it Ged.
#249377 - 14/07/1210:59 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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We're not talking about the Messi's and Ronaldo's here - but the Dempsey's and Adam's of this world - players at (respectively) smaller clubs who have had a good season and have attracted attention.
Real, Barca, City & the Bayern's of this world aren't in for these players - these aren't our competition.
You can read over my last couple of posts on this thread again for anything else you want answers to (my thoughts anyway)
I don't have the energy to back & forth with someone of such constant dour, derogatory and sour outlook.
This thread has already been hijacked and it's a shame. Dempsey would make for a fantastic signing at the right price, with the right mindset & the right ambitions - I would love to see him reproduce his form at Fulham in our pathetic, mid table team - in front of our average atmosphere wearing our mid table, nothing special kit...
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#249448 - 15/07/1201:59 AMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Throughout euros, spain didn't play with any goalscoring machine upfront, had 6 midfielders most of the time. Even barca didn't play with any, barca had villa injured and messi was the only goalscoring machine. Messi wasn't employed as striker neither, was more like a free offensive midfielder.
#249481 - 15/07/1204:29 AMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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i see a few people here thinking that Dempsey is a one season wonder,i dont know the goal stats for him over the last few years,but i would say he's been a top prem league players for a a while now,he has improved year after year.he has earned the right to be a liverpool player and i hope he becomes one.
The year before a ratio of one in 3 roughly (bit less).
Before that it was a pretty poor goal return for winger/attacking midfielder/striker (all the positions he played at various times).
But I think he's always added something to fulham. And at least he has a little bit of pace. Not really much, but a little bit. We are sorely lacking in it.
#249496 - 15/07/1208:29 AMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: Ged
We're not talking about the Messi's and Ronaldo's here - but the Dempsey's and Adam's of this world - players at (respectively) smaller clubs who have had a good season and have attracted attention.
Real, Barca, City & the Bayern's of this world aren't in for these players - these aren't our competition.
You can read over my last couple of posts on this thread again for anything else you want answers to (my thoughts anyway)
I don't have the energy to back & forth with someone of such constant dour, derogatory and sour outlook.
This thread has already been hijacked and it's a shame. Dempsey would make for a fantastic signing at the right price, with the right mindset & the right ambitions - I would love to see him reproduce his form at Fulham in our pathetic, mid table team - in front of our average atmosphere wearing our mid table, nothing special kit...
Yep - he's our dour n' sour alright. You'll get used to him... postures a lot but he's quite harmless really!
#249523 - 15/07/1203:17 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: Ged
We're not talking about the Messi's and Ronaldo's here - but the Dempsey's and Adam's of this world - players at (respectively) smaller clubs who have had a good season and have attracted attention.
Real, Barca, City & the Bayern's of this world aren't in for these players - these aren't our competition.
Firstly, how do you know that real, barca, city, bayern etc aren't in for Dempsey? Secondly, he announced earlier this year that if he left it would be to play for a team in the CL. At no point did he say he wanted to play champions league football....'OR europa league football if it gives me the opportunity to play at anfield'!
Thirdly, if you think that Adam has a good season you're on a different planet pal!
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#249532 - 15/07/1203:48 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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I think he will be a decent signing. But lots of players find it hard to make the jump in standards to a club like liverpool. I thought Robbie Keane was going to be a good player for us but he could not make the leap. Hopefully it will be different with Dempsey.
doesn't often happen but i totally agree
same goes for players like adam, downing and carroll i suppose.
all star players at their previous clubs, yet they have so far failed to become important players for liverpool.
not really the ideal FSG signing given his age. but i think the fact he's one of the star players of the USA international side shows they are looking to gain more american fans and sell more shirts in the states. makes sense that he will sign before we depart on our tour of america.
just hope he can actually recapture the kind of form he was in for fulham last season. he has to settle in quick cos he won't have many of his best years ahead of him.
if the dempsey deal is a done thing as many seem to think would it not make sense that he should sign today or very early tomorrow with the squad leaving for the american tour tomorrow as it would make business sense and give him a early start on training in the rodgers way
#249659 - 15/07/1209:48 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Thirdly, if you think that Adam has a good season you're on a different planet pal!
Errrrrrrrrrrm... at Blackpool before we signed him
Not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed now are we..
As we're talking about getting rid of adam and bringing in Dempsey (who has just had his best season ever), I assumed we were talking about this season just gone. No need for the cheap insult though, when a simple explanation would have made you look a better man.
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#249693 - 15/07/1211:23 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Thirdly, if you think that Adam has a good season you're on a different planet pal!
Errrrrrrrrrrm... at Blackpool before we signed him
Not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed now are we..
As we're talking about getting rid of adam and bringing in Dempsey (who has just had his best season ever), I assumed we were talking about this season just gone. No need for the cheap insult though, when a simple explanation would have made you look a better man.
and i really couldn't give a fig what you think but hey who cares about whether i do or not.
11m is good for us and good for fulham. fair.
It's a rip off. Dempsey is a 6-8 mil player tops. He's only a couple of years younger than Maxi - and how much did we get for him?
he is valued on more than just age though isn't he and is a totally different player to maxi in anycase. no relevance at all. clint is instead of siggy and will play center ahead of gerrard and lucas. if he scores 20 odd goals like he did last year 11m will look like a steal.
#249856 - 16/07/1204:37 AMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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andy carroll 35 million , 11 goals in 56 games for liverpool so if demspey is only a bit better than that it will be value for money because andy isnt sadly.
jordan henderson.20 m..what are the chances of him out-scoring dempsey. zero. so 11m for a goalscorer and a top player is a great deal. outside of yaya and silva he was the best midfielder last season.
#249867 - 16/07/1204:56 AMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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jordan henderson.20 m..what are the chances of him out-scoring dempsey. zero. so 11m for a goalscorer and a top player is a great deal. outside of yaya and silva he was the best midfielder last season.
yes dempsey will be a good signing a very decent premier league player
Hang on, Henderson being 20m and not doing well, does not under any circumstances mean someone who scores more than Henderson is a great deal at 11m. Henderson was a bad deal. He wasn't worth 20m, and we overpaid, same with Carroll, so neither is a good basis to judge Dempsey's true value on.
neither is age or maxi. the guy is class is the best way to value him. 29 or not if you are getting one the best performing midfielders in england for 11m you are doing well
Dempsey for Adam in a straight swap would make sense. I also would be loathed to pay more than 6million for Dempsey but he could be the worth the money if he turns into another Gary Mc.
besides 29 is not that old in football terms today.
#249998 - 16/07/1206:04 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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LATEST BETTING NEWS : Betting was suspended on Dempsey on friday. But, today betting is opened again and Dempsey offered for odds 1/8 which is like $1 for $1.15, tough favourite, isn't it?
WALCOTT : Walcott was offered @ 3/1 on friday and today, odds @ 1/1, like $1 for $2. Thus, Walcott rumours seems to be true. Same goes for Carroll. It seems Carroll will be joining Toons. Anyway, these are bookies sources they can wrong also. For example, Krasic was offered as strong favourite to join reds earlier but today odds has drifted and it seems Krasic's deal has broken down.
#250006 - 16/07/1206:30 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: craney91
The same bookies that made about 50 different favorites betting on our new manager.
Villas Boas Rafa Martinez Klopp
Were all certs at one point.
[b]Never seen 50 different favourites, i'm afraid. All i remember is Martinez was strong favourite for like 2-3 weeks and BR was 15/1 or so after he rejected the famous interview. I dnt know about other bookies but i follow skybet. It's reliable to some extent and ofcourse not 100%.
#250024 - 16/07/1207:09 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Never seen 50 different favourites, i'm afraid. All i remember is Martinez was strong favourite for like 2-3 weeks and BR was 15/1 or so after he rejected the famous interview. I dnt know about other bookies but i follow skybet. It's reliable to some extent and ofcourse not 100%.
Exaggeration? Sarcasm? Of coure it wasn't 50.
You follow skybet?
Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha I don't bet put I've been told they're the biggest load of sh*t going. They suspend betting to make up their own news stories of the back of it.
Never seen 50 different favourites, i'm afraid. All i remember is Martinez was strong favourite for like 2-3 weeks and BR was 15/1 or so after he rejected the famous interview. I dnt know about other bookies but i follow skybet. It's reliable to some extent and ofcourse not 100%.
Exaggeration? Sarcasm? Of coure it wasn't 50.
You follow skybet?
Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha I don't bet put I've been told they're the biggest load of sh*t going. They suspend betting to make up their own news stories of the back of it.
#250594 - 18/07/1203:41 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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They'll be devastated to know you have turned your back on them because they haven't signed a player that the press has decided to link us to. They'll probably sign messi & ronaldo in the hope of getting back in to your goodbooks.
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#250621 - 18/07/1204:29 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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We need to give these teams asking for inflated prices our deadwood who can offer something to them but not us.
Downing and Adam are at the top of this list. Downing would offer Swansea something and Adam would offer Fulham something.
They are not good enough for Liverpool, because mentally they cant handle it. They are better of (clearly) being big fishes in small ponds. They would suit Fulham and Swansea better than us and secondly, they can be used to get players we want who improve our team.
#250624 - 18/07/1204:30 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
It still seems liks we're getting ripped off. We may have slightly overpaid for Borini, but 10m for Dempsey in the last year of contract is definitely ovverpaying. 7 or 8m maximum, ideally less. When was the last time we got a bargain?
#250665 - 18/07/1205:16 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: want3d
Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
It still seems liks we're getting ripped off. We may have slightly overpaid for Borini, but 10m for Dempsey in the last year of contract is definitely ovverpaying. 7 or 8m maximum, ideally less. When was the last time we got a bargain?
emile heskey £11m
bargain
lol, weird how different views can be. Heskey was one of the most expensive players around at the time, it was a club record, and for me, he was a total failure. Our form dropped severely when he came in, that year we were challenging for the title.
I'm oretty sure he was being sarcastic....? there can't be many sane people who thought that emile heskey was a bargain!!!
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there are quite a lot of similarities in the heskey signing and carol signing, i think both were brought in to be attacking powerhouses, and both ironically proved to be too lightweight
They'll be devastated to know you have turned your back on them because they haven't signed a player that the press has decided to link us to. They'll probably sign messi & ronaldo in the hope of getting back in to your goodbooks.
they posted it on their own website so its not the press.
#250704 - 18/07/1205:52 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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The link I saw was a video on theri website - the video narration said that "published reports say that LFC are on the verge of completing a deal for Dempsey". To me that is just reporting a rumour. In my opinion that isn't the same thing as the club OR FSG anouncing we have signed the player.
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#250705 - 18/07/1205:52 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Heskey contributed a hundred fold more than Carroll. Heskey worked very hard he was a nightmare for defenders and allowed Owen the space to get the goals. At £11m that was fair ish £35m for Carroll was the most overpriced deal of all time.
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#250709 - 18/07/1205:56 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Emile Heskey did very well for us.
But of course, its the fashion to point and laugh at him now isn't it?
I'm just as fashionable now as I was when I heard the horrific news that we were signing the big lummox. We had been linked to him for months and I assumed it was a joke...and then I remembered that we had a buffoon for a manager. The same buffoon who....
-preferred diouf to anelka -introduced le tallec as liverpool's next big thing -compared cheyrou to zinedine zidane -forced robbie fowler out of the club -signed emile heskey, diao, ferri, ziege, traore, dundee, meijer
If houllier was at LFC today he'd probably even have signed henderson!
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#250711 - 18/07/1205:57 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: Stanley Park
Heskey contributed a hundred fold more than Carroll. Heskey worked very hard he was a nightmare for defenders and allowed Owen the space to get the goals. At £11m that was fair ish £35m for Carroll was the most overpriced deal of all time.
Heskey was a very poor, over priced striker. Carroll is a very poor, EXTREMELY over priced striker. Neither should have ever been anywhere near the home dressing room at anfield.
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#250725 - 18/07/1206:11 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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I think your only remembering the bad of Heskey there. He was over priced at that time as well but not lets forget his successful partnership with Owen where they scored many.
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#250730 - 18/07/1206:15 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
I think your only remembering the bad of Heskey there. He was over priced at that time as well but not lets forget his successful partnership with Owen where they scored many.
Dead right and Heskey played a lot of games for us. Dalglish having paid £35m for Carroll then drops him. Worst manager and worst signing of all time. Hodgson was a genuis compared to Dalglish.
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#250731 - 18/07/1206:15 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Heskey worked hard and helpex us win the treble. nver give him stick personally and think he gets a raw deal. he was another one plqyed out odf positjon by ged
#250737 - 18/07/1206:28 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: Snakeye
I think your only remembering the bad of Heskey there. He was over priced at that time as well but not lets forget his successful partnership with Owen where they scored many.
He had one good campaign, I'll give you that. But so did marcus stewart and many other one-season wonders. Heskey's good season was totally out of character - the mother of all purple patches if you like. Didn't he go 37 games without a goal on one occasion? Class players don't do that. And Owen would have scored bags of goals whether heskey was there or not - he always has done.
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#250744 - 18/07/1206:43 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: craney91
Englands best player in the 2010 World Cup.
How do you work that one out!?! We struggled to get out of a really easy group only scoring 2 goals in process. We played a total of 4 games and won just the 1. As far as Heskey's contribution goes:
He got subbed in the first 2 games and in the only game we managed to win, he didn't even start - he came on for the last 3 minutes so he is input was negligible. In our final game of the tournament he came on for the last 20 minutes.
So....at the world cup 2010:
Heskey started 2 games and came on as a sub in 2 games. We scored 3 goals throughout the entire tournament - none of them were by Heskey and neither were any of the assists.
You don't half talk some sh!te!
:-)
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How do you work that one out!?! We struggled to get out of a really easy group only scoring 2 goals in process. We played a total of 4 games and won just the 1. As far as Heskey's contribution goes:
He got subbed in the first 2 games and in the only game we managed to win, he didn't even start - he came on for the last 3 minutes so he is input was negligible. In our final game of the tournament he came on for the last 20 minutes.
So....at the world cup 2010:
Heskey started 2 games and came on as a sub in 2 games. We scored 3 goals throughout the entire tournament - none of them were by Heskey and neither were any of the assists.
You don't half talk some sh!te!
:-)
Maybe he was englands best player because he did so little to contribute that he he isn't tarnished by how [oops] england were in 2010? That's the only way I can work it out.
#250756 - 18/07/1206:56 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: craney91
Emile Heskey did very well for us.
But of course, its the fashion to point and laugh at him now isn't it?
I'm just as fashionable now as I was when I heard the horrific news that we were signing the big lummox. We had been linked to him for months and I assumed it was a joke...and then I remembered that we had a buffoon for a manager. The same buffoon who....
-preferred diouf to anelka -introduced le tallec as liverpool's next big thing -compared cheyrou to zinedine zidane -forced robbie fowler out of the club -signed emile heskey, diao, ferri, ziege, traore, dundee, meijer
If houllier was at LFC today he'd probably even have signed henderson!
agree 99% the only player that was ok on that list was ziege
#250761 - 18/07/1207:02 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Carheex
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Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
Originally Posted By: CarheeX
Originally Posted By: craney91
Englands best player in the 2010 World Cup.
How do you work that one out!?! We struggled to get out of a really easy group only scoring 2 goals in process. We played a total of 4 games and won just the 1. As far as Heskey's contribution goes:
He got subbed in the first 2 games and in the only game we managed to win, he didn't even start - he came on for the last 3 minutes so he is input was negligible. In our final game of the tournament he came on for the last 20 minutes.
So....at the world cup 2010:
Heskey started 2 games and came on as a sub in 2 games. We scored 3 goals throughout the entire tournament - none of them were by Heskey and neither were any of the assists.
You don't half talk some sh!te!
:-)
Maybe he was englands best player because he did so little to contribute that he he isn't tarnished by how [oops] england were in 2010? That's the only way I can work it out.
I wouldn't waste your time trying to figure our craney. He'll end up talking about your cock and threatening to quit the forum unless you're banned!!
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#250785 - 18/07/1207:44 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: KingoftheKop
I wish you two would stop flirting and just get on with it.. seriously!
I don't know what his problem is kingofthekop. He says I chat sh*t, and yet he still replies time and time and time and time and time again.
Love it!
Same for his other pal, who says "my posts are full of rubbish" yet even that doesn't stop it from replying time and time and time and time and time and time again.
#250825 - 18/07/1208:26 PMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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What's the bargain thing going on? Bargain buys are real on FM only. In real world, just name me a player from current man utd, man city or chelsea that you label as bargain. Fact is you need to spend big to get quality players. I wonder scums paid 15m for ashley young having 1 year left on his contract last year. So for me 10m for dempsey is max we can afford not more.
#250888 - 19/07/1212:34 AMRe: Clint Dempsey is already a LFC player - to be announced soon
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Originally Posted By: redordead13
But he may be soon.
be surprised if we moved for him now, surely if BR was seriously interested he and the club would have focused on wrapping this deal up before going on tour?
He was brilliant last season and as much as he would be a great signing anything over £8m for a player his age with one year left on his contract would be too much. By comparison van Persie is a year younger and Arsenal will be lucky to get £20m