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#250973 - 19/07/12 12:31 PM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: fazakerley red 1]
boozley Offline
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Are you on the level Craney? I cant seem to work out if youre taking the [oops] or if you actually believe what you are saying....I might be easily confused at the best of times but [oops] me youre coming out with some utter crap.

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#250982 - 19/07/12 12:45 PM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: boozley]
craney91
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Originally Posted By: boozley
Are you on the level Craney? I cant seem to work out if youre taking the [oops] or if you actually believe what you are saying....I might be easily confused at the best of times but [oops] me youre coming out with some utter crap.


Just the way I like it smile

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#251047 - 19/07/12 04:36 PM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: murphs75
He may be your leader.

he does run the forum


Edited by fazakerley red 1 (19/07/12 04:36 PM)

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#251099 - 19/07/12 06:09 PM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Originally Posted By: mybloodisred
Originally Posted By: craney91


All the players are saying that preseason is a "blow".........GOD HELP US!


It is concerning me that a key issue Liverpool have often had is they are aren't fit enough at the beginning of the season (or the rest of it). Everyone seems to be saying that Rodgers hasn't made them go on many long distance runs just ball work. Now Fitness training is what the majority of early pre season is all about, utd, barca, all the top clubs do it this way, its why they are so tired during pre season games and dont perform as well as they do at the beginning of the season. It worries me that the lads might not be ready fitness wise.


I agree about our fitness early on in previous seasons. But the going on long runs stuff and that being what all the top clubs do is wrong. It is what many coaches do, but it's not what Mourinho does, and not what Rodgers seems to be doing. Mourinho's philosophy is that everything is done with the ball. That way you get trained techincally as well as physically, it's more efficient given the time that you've got. He's said this in quite a few interviews and his players have also said it's the case. If it's good enough for Mourinho, then it's good enough for me.


I didn't realise that about mourinho mate. That must be after his chelsea days then because they used to do a lot of long distance, jog sprint jog sprint stuff. That's how most of the top clubs do it as thats what the sports science people say is best for developing fitness. But like you say, if Mou does it, then I'm happy for my team to do it too. Can't argue with results.

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#251153 - 19/07/12 09:22 PM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Rafarendum
Originally Posted By: mybloodisred


I didn't realise that about mourinho mate. That must be after his chelsea days then because they used to do a lot of long distance, jog sprint jog sprint stuff. That's how most of the top clubs do it as thats what the sports science people say is best for developing fitness. But like you say, if Mou does it, then I'm happy for my team to do it too. Can't argue with results.


He did it at Chelsea too. Some quotes

"Have you ever seen a pianist run around his piano before sitting down to unleash a masterpiece? In our methodology we don't send them on laps around the pitch either. " - Mourinho


"Training's completely different now. It used to be a lot of running and work without the ball. Now it's all with the ball, which any player loves." - Lampard

I couldn't say for sure he's never sent any players on a long run, but all the players I've seen talking about him seem to say what Lampard said above. I've seen a couple of documentaries about him and his methods. He actually likes 90 minute training sessions, which are shorter than others, but he likes them more intense, closer to the intensity of a real game, and always with the ball and very disciplined.

I don't know for sure whether it's better in terms of early season starts, but I don't think it's something to worry about either.



That does alleviate my concerns somewhat as Chelsea never looked like a tired team. It was concerning me quite a bit that we would fall back into starting the season looking sluggish, unfit and off the pace like we used to, but this would suggest that shouldn't be a worry.

Also, found these from Carra today which would suggest you are bang on the money.

"We are Liverpool and we have always tried to play that way in training, but there has been a slight difference to the normal pre-season. Everyone has their own way they want to do things.

"Normally you have your football work and your running, this time it is all incorporated in one, so you have the football all the time. We joke that it's what you call disguised running.

"All the elements have been blended into one thing rather than separated out, so we're working really hard physically, but any footballer will tell you its better when you're with the ball.

"It's fantastic to have a manager who has these ideas about wanting to pass the ball."

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#251166 - 19/07/12 10:24 PM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: mybloodisred]
craney91
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Jamie Carragher!?! Carra can talk about playing football all he wants! The best thing we can do is get rid of Carroll and Carra first before we even think about playing football!

Carra hoofs it up field every time he gets it, what does he know about football?

I think Brendan oughta be on the phone to Pulis and see if he'd be interested in acquiring Carra's "services" for next season.

Slow, limited football ability, predictable, long ball fanatic.

If he gets made a coach at LFC it will destroy everything Brendan is trying to create.

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#251184 - 19/07/12 11:37 PM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: craney91
Jamie Carragher!?! Carra can talk about playing football all he wants! The best thing we can do is get rid of Carroll and Carra first before we even think about playing football!

Carra hoofs it up field every time he gets it, what does he know about football?

I think Brendan oughta be on the phone to Pulis and see if he'd be interested in acquiring Carra's "services" for next season.

Slow, limited football ability, predictable, long ball fanatic.

If he gets made a coach at LFC it will destroy everything Brendan is trying to create.


Was that meant to have something to do with what we were discussing? Or was it a new point on ur distain for carragher

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#251201 - 20/07/12 08:07 AM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: mybloodisred]
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Carragher is actually really knowledgeable. Future pundit or coach. He was a brilliant pundit for the Euros.

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#251213 - 20/07/12 09:04 AM Re: Brendan on AC via koptalk on facebook [Re: redordead13]
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he has some knowledge and would be good to get as a coach

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