You must know him quite well yourself in order to know so much about who he knows.

absolutley no doubt the suarez business was a factor in dalglish going as he dealt with it so badly along with the dire home form .

No. It isn't. I see what your trying to say but 1. we just disagree on what is worse, abusing someone based on their race, or making a threat of physical violence (I won't even call it baseless because Suarez may well have thought it was serious). No you can't be arrested for saying I'm gonna punch you in an argument. That isn't sufficient 'threat' to warrant a criminal charge. Threat like most of the enlgish legal system and its termonology is quite vague, but you can't get arrested for saying that. You could potentially if you said it whilst moving towards them in an 'aggressive manner' (sounds ridiculous but clenched fist and aggressively motioning towards the target is actually important in this specific case). Also this threat is nothing like the Barton incident and thus can't really be compared.

But on what evra said, yes that is wrong. I would never suggest otherwise. That should be looked into just like his derogatory use of "you south american". It is double standards and is wrong. But it doesn't make Suarez' use of the word any less wrong.



Well this is just where we disagree. Has no one ever said I'm gonna punch you in a minute without actually displaying any real signs of doing it? (The Evra case), I can't see any way that is worse than racially abusing someone. Now if there was real intent behind those words and he looked anything like he was going to, that would be a different matter, both morally and legally.



Yes absolutely right in this sense. The FA took a stance which was back the guy who has been racially abused against all else. And that was wrong. Justice wasn't even handed nor fair. But that doesn't detract from Suarez deserving an 8 game ban.

Absolutely. Completely agree.

No it does not indicate Utd have influence in the slightest. It indicates the FA had an opportunity to look tough on racism. That is a point of contention, but has sh!t all to do with Utd.

But I agree on Terry, that is dodgey if the FA don't interject. Even if they just take it to their trial, but as Terry's defence was backed up by the victim, there isn't a lot anyone can do to convict him. Disagree on ferdinand though.

Firstly, Fergie has no class. He knows what Dalglish means to Liverpool and he's smeared him after the fact. He also knows the press will run with it and blacken Dalglish's legacy further.

Secondly, Fergie wants to railroad Suarez out of our club. Those of you saying Suarez should be sold might as well be ManU fans. Fergie did not sell Giggs, Keane, Cantona or Ferdinand after they disgraced themselves. Fergie knows Suarez is our one world class player with youth on his side - and that he's wanted in Europe. It's not a conspiracy theory - fergie will always snipe in the media for his own gains. These pop shots at both Dalglish and Suarez (and by extension Rodgers) are just him abusing his position in the game - as per usual!

A very fair and considered argument. My only difference would be no I don't think context allows the use of racist words in the same way as the context of saying to someone you're gonna punch them. Context can change them, like sometimes in comedy, but on the football pitch there is no context for it. Where as I would and have tolerated people making violent gestures or threats. But that is just a personal thing I guess.

Absolutely spot on ! Except you missed out Rooney. Ferguson is so scared of something. A resurgent Liverpool? Being overtaken by City? Finishing another season without a trophy? What a sad sad pathetic tw@t he is.

I read the Ferguson interview as always it was sound and full of sense. Yes he sided with Evra what else would you expect him to do. If Ferguson is a tw*t then I hope Rodgers is also a tw*t over the next 20 odd years I will be more than happy.