Hell never be a 20 mil player but he does hve the ability to improve and become a player who is always available for a pass and keep the game moving.

Just to be pedantic he was bought for 16m I thought?

Some sources say £16m, some say £18m, some say £20m. It's splitting hairs though when he's only worth tuppence ha'penny anyway.

Do you see no potential in him at all?

No Liverpool player has beat him in the skills challenge yet!

Technically he is very good. He may do a Lucas and be great in a season or two

thats the beginning of a campaign, even if its only in jest, its a ridiculous vein of thought, what could you possibly hope to achieve and how is it in anyway objective?

Seriously, I don't see anything in him that I don't see in any midfielder in the country, either professional or amateur. From what I see, he does nothing for most of the time. You could pick a random midfielder in League 1 or League 2 to replace him in our team and you wouldn't notice any difference whatsoever.